Rubber Room

[redblack]

i am sorry for that statement but that is my true feeling. You guys have been exposed today with all the statements from Jman and do you really think anyone could trust you anymore. You guys want to sell picks made by mods under fake names etc etc etc. I really loved therx.com but what came up today not only let`s me shake my head - it makes me think you guys must have rocks in your head instead of a brain. All statements made by Jman make your site look like a shithole.

It is really sad to see this site (a site i loved for years) going downwards so fast.

 

[eoghater]

you don't think the poster boy over there has a clean sheet? His true personal character and nature are coming out now with the way he's handled this situation. There's always two sides of the story and I'm not defending eithers. It's funny how everyone takes him literally when not one person has actually met him face to face.

 

[5starbomb]

You guys want to sell picks made by mods under fake names etc etc etc.....


If that part is true I really dont know what to think about this place anymore. I was a big fan of the site and still am but is this true?

 

[t3a]

You have "loved this site for years" and have 29 posts?

:smashf:

OH NO, don't tell us you might stop posting.......

 

[G.MONEY]

You guys want to sell picks made by mods under fake names etc etc etc.....


If that part is true I really dont know what to think about this place anymore. I was a big fan of the site and still am but is this true?

Do all you guys believe everything you read on the Net? I like Jman and have no bones to pick with him and could not tell you if what he said is true or not, but dam to believe every word is truly sad.

I have never meet or talked to Rick or Wil or any of the mods as long as I have been here, and I go back to the Peep days. Take everything that is said with a grain of salt, there are much bigger battles to get yourself crazy over than this.

 

[5starbomb]

Do all you guys believe everything you read on the Net? I like Jman and have no bones to pick with him and could not tell you if what he said is true or not, but dam to believe every word is truly sad.

I have never meet or talked to Rick or Wil or any of the mods as long as I have been here, and I go back to the Peep days. Take everything that is said with a grain of salt, there are much bigger battles to get yourself crazy over than this.

Wil or any of the other mods have always been cool with me, I still enjoy therx and have learned a lot since joining here. But JMAN was a huge asset to this place and I do believe a lot of the stuff that he is saying because he has a lot of evidence to prove things.. such as ghost names and bounced checks.... just to name a few... I dont think JMAN is lying.

 

[eoghater]

the only problem is that jman never admitted to his own personal demons. From what you can see in the RX history, things weren't always straightforward with him.

 

[G.MONEY]

Wil or any of the other mods have always been cool with me, I still enjoy therx and have learned a lot since joining here. But JMAN was a huge asset to this place and I do believe a lot of the stuff that he is saying because he has a lot of evidence to prove things.. such as ghost names and bounced checks.... just to name a few... I dont think JMAN is lying.

I never said he was lying..But let me ask you...When you have been pissed did you ever expand the truth? Did you ever imbelish (sp) a story a bit.

I will miss Jman as he was a huge asset here..But I can tell you my life will go on here at the RX

 

[BigAFan]

you don't think the poster boy over there has a clean sheet? His true personal character and nature are coming out now with the way he's handled this situation. There's always two sides of the story and I'm not defending eithers. It's funny how everyone takes him literally when not one person has actually met him face to face.

Well said!ope:

 

[BigAFan]

You have "loved this site for years" and have 29 posts?

:smashf:

OH NO, don't tell us you might stop posting.......

:nohead:

 

[eoghater]

i like how he's subtly auditioning a position for them in that thread. Good, he'd fit in with the rat pack.

 

[levistep]

Didn't someone get banned for bringing up an old thread where jman stiffed someone?

 

[fucnluc]

Didn't someone get banned for bringing up an old thread where jman stiffed someone?

That would be me.

Listen, how you can't take Journeyman with a grain of salt right now is beyond me.

The little bitch left and ratted out his friends, the same ones who went over and defended him at EOG just a month ago when they were calling him fagggot boy.

Shit, when wil banned me for bumping those threads when he ran the flier scam he said it was because he was sticking up for Journeyman and I told him I respect that. Loyalty is hard to find, and look what Journeyman does with it. Cockroach.

Then he tells the bookie he owes money to that if he doesn't stop harassing him than he'll call the authorities. That's some fucked up shit, in the real world people get shot over cats who say that.

 

[eoghater]

Jman basically went into fetal position when his past was being brought up. I hope Wil goes guns blazing with his rebuttal to this stink the rat has produced.

You think EOG is better JMAN when people are receiving fliers about a "great" book formerly from betonusa? And the old geezer's face is on the front sheet saying you're guaranteed to get paid? Now look at all the slow pays you shmuck.

 

[eoghater]

hey jman, still attached to this site?

Why don't you tell your cronies about your past dealings on this site that you never want to discuss?

 

[DonMelchor]

Personally I don't care if they put Xpandas picks for sale, Who ever buys that shit should be dead anyways.....

 

[wilheim]

Fucnluc

Shit, when wil banned me for bumping those threads when he ran the flier scam he said it was because he was sticking up for Journeyman and I told him I respect that. Loyalty is hard to find, and look what Journeyman does with it. Cockroach.

I also registered at EOG and had his back in the thread where someone impersonated a deceased ex-moderator and bashed Journeyman no end. I never intended on posting at EOG because I knew it would probably end up with bad feelings but when they were bashing Journeyman and disrespecting a friend who is passed on I broke a promise to myself and jumped in there even though I know most of the posters there do not care for me (to put it mildly).

I also gave the mod crew at EOG a lecture about allowing what they allowed to happen to a mutual friend and I still feel bad about that but the bottom line is I was sticking up for what I thought were two brothers, one deceased and one who obviously had me fooled.

Personally, I really have nothing at all against Pete and Buc (I don't really know the others). I will always remember Pete had my back more than once when I worked for him and will never forget it, I hope someday to be able to cause the rif betwen us that I caused to heal. To this day I can speak with Bucsfan without any animosity, we have no problem with each other, just two guys trying to make a simple living.


Fucnluc, I know we have had our differences but I know you understand what being a man is and I respect you for that.


wil..

 

[teazeman]

good post Wil as fucnluc is dead on with this post, i'm dissapointed anytime i see someone trying to get out from under a number regardless of the issues. notifying the police, total bullshit imo.

 

[wilheim]

Ironic

I just realized something - the issue that caused Pete and I to not talk for over two years was about Journeyman cheating on his baseball record. I stood up for Journeyman as the brand new head mod here and protectd him when Pete wanted to expose him (he wans't banned yet) and told him it was none of his business, that was a mistake I have now lived to regret.

Pete knew it and I was too dumb to not believe him. I have since gone back and have found the evidence that prooved Pete was right. Ask General Pete about it over at EOG, he still remembers the matter very well, I am certain.

FWIW - I have felt bad about that for over two years.


wil..

 

[wilheim]

The Rx.com software keeps a record of all moderator deletes. There are two kinds soft delete which leaves the post there but only mods can see it and hard delete which basically nukes the post off the data base.

A record of a soft delete looks like this:

87616 Journeyman 10:02, 21st Sep 2007 Post by goodcall Soft Deleted Thread: [Week 3 Lines] Forum: [Journeyman’s 4th Annual ‘Pick 4’ NFL Post Up Contest]

A hard delete or nuke looks like this:

88135 Journeyman 11:15, 29th Sep 2007 Thread Removed Thread: [Drugstore Products for Free AR] Forum: [Health and Fitness Room]

The key word is REMOVED meaning it is gone, and no one, moderator, administrator, poster, lurker or anyone can see what the post used to say.

In the early summer of 2005 here is what Journeyman's moderator log contained, (there are a lot of normal mod functions also as I only extracted actions when JM moderated his own posts) as you can see it is Journeyman hard removing posts by Journeyman mostly late at night after results were in. The time for example in the first one is 00:13 which means 13 minutes after midnight Eastern time. Sometime he removed posts early in the morning like the second entry at 8:27AM Eastern.

As the summer wore on you can see that most of the nukes were from his own MLB thread that he was keeping his YTD baseball record in. Now he will claim all kinds of excuses like he wanted to make the thread neeter or he double posted whatever, but you can do all that by editing or soft deleting and not nuking a post for all eternity.

There is only one reason to hard delete a post and that is to destroy completey what a post contained so no one can ever tell it even existed unless you made a copy or you have access to the mod log like I do and Pete used to.


The other strange thing is there is no need for a mod to moderate himself so much. This is what General Pete tried to tell me but I would not listen. My only excuse was I was brand new on the job at the time (started as head mod around 20 June 2005). He even deleted his best bet posts in the Board Room at times which was a tradition back then to post your best bet for the other mods to play if they wanted to.

You tell me why would a moderator delete his own posts late at night or early in the morning so much in his own baseball picks thread...

15363 Journeyman 00:13, 16th Mar 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Your Daily Best Bet? (Tues)]
15399 Journeyman 08:27, 17th Mar 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Your Daily Best Bet ? (Thur)]
15511 Journeyman 01:07, 25th Mar 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Illinois vs Arizona or Oklahoma State- What will the line be?]
15437 Journeyman 11:32, 18th Mar 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [ODU VS. MICHIGAN STATE (How They Match Up And Who Will Cover)...]
15784 Journeyman 11:13, 4th Apr 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Board Room Members Best Bets 4/4]
16076 Journeyman 23:35, 16th Apr 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Padres/Dodgers O/U 8 is available at Hollywood...]
16045 Journeyman 21:10, 14th Apr 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Winner of the NBA Eastern Conference Finals, Detroit or Miami?]
16246 Journeyman 18:37, 25th Apr 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Board Room Members Best Bets 4/24]
16337 Journeyman 22:14, 28th Apr 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Choptalk]
16309 Journeyman 21:39, 27th Apr 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16344 Journeyman 10:05, 29th Apr 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16402 Journeyman 18:30, 1st May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16548 Journeyman 15:55, 9th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16580 Journeyman 16:17, 10th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [JimFiestSux UP over 15 units on your favorite capper from the Rx!!]
16569 Journeyman 23:20, 9th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16568 Journeyman 23:19, 9th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16565 Journeyman 22:49, 9th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16644 Journeyman 22:40, 12th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
16695 Journeyman 21:09, 15th May 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
17368 Journeyman 12:32, 11th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Board Room Members Best Bets 6/11]
17583 Journeyman 07:51, 16th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
17432 Journeyman 00:45, 14th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Board Room Members Best Bets 6/13]
17431 Journeyman 00:41, 14th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
17420 Journeyman 22:08, 13th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
17380 Journeyman 22:04, 11th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [SI Picks Arizona Cardinals To Win NFC West]
17696 Journeyman 20:53, 20th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Game 5 WWTS Contest and Standings]
17625 Journeyman 23:58, 19th Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]
17766 Journeyman 18:58, 23rd Jun 2005 Post by Journeyman Removed Thread: [Journeyman 2005 MLB]


You notice it stops around June 23rd which is when a couple of posters said they saw some of Journeyman's picks the day before but they were now gone now and that started the trouble over the deletions.


I know Journeyman will flip out when he sees this and start saying more shit about me at EOG and making excuses etc. but the software does not lie. These are cut and pasted directly from Journeyman's moderator log record that goes back to 2004 when we changed over to VBulletin software.

You do the math.



wil.